Have we Realised

I understand that this planet Earth is probably the only planet that has 'time'.
I also understand there is no such thing as time.

I don't know how long we have been back to spirit though, cos time has no measurement.

Tricky stuff dear Bill.A bit beyond my knowing.
Still I enjoy your ideas as always.
Stephen

I didn't know that Earth was the only planet to have 'time'.

Interesting fact.....

We have time because we have schedules.
My internet keeps dropping so I cannot post all I want to on this subject.
Some of which I have learnt and some I believe through reading.
I'll come back to this

Time is only relevant in earth time

5 nano seconds ( 1 billionth of  second) on the other side equals 6 hours of our time

does that info  any way help...tee hee

was given that info long time ago...
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I do know we have already done all this and just revisiting what we have already accomplished.

we came back from the future to help because when the bang happened too many were left behind .not enough had awakened to the surprise of the other side,

now getting in over my head so am backing away slowly lol

I like that Laura.
Thanks
Stephen

Just a simple remark as well....the physical body needs rest and sleep.    
So supposedly we use the dark hours for rest.....
I wonder if on other planets,they need to rest....

Hard to know that Joan.Most biological systems seem to need time
to renew cells,energy ect.
I would say yes.But really just a guess
Stephen

I would say NO rflho

it is the human carcass/vessels of humans and earth beings who need rest.. to renew.
Yet we travel all night long in astral ...remote views etc. and awaken..well mso tof the time refreshed and renewed.

It is my understanding and mine alone (you must find your personal truths) that the higher we ascend mentally on the earth plane the LESS sleep we need.

It is my understanding of things as well we have no need of rest on the other side as we are ENERGY .
continual motion in action
is why we are watched over as we sleep to protect the human carcass/vessel from danger while we leave it for a few hours.

just my thougths and understandings..nothing more

Sorry,I was referring to the earth plane.   Our time system here,our physical bodies need rest.     But so true what you say,Laura ann.   We astral travel and we don't need the sleep we used to need as  a child.

I can go to bed at midnight and still wake up at 5am....
Where as going to bed at midnight as a teenager,I could sleep until midday.

Arbel wrote:How many of us have realised that when God devised the alterative plan for mankind which was untold centuries ago that when we volunteered to do this work at that time we have only been back to our true homes for seconds as time has no meaning in spirit



 

Bill



 


 

Bill what you have presented is fun   ! My question is, "What about the folks that did not volunteer?" Obviously you, I, and people like us agreed to it or we would not be messengers, but what about the people that didn't volunteer? The folks that are here to receive the message because they cannot go "home" until they receive and understand the message. Are these folks caught in the realm of time because they cannot go home? john

Arbel wrote:Time does not exist in spirit so I have to use material time John; now if my memory is correct when we volunteered all those centuries ago every time our human bodies died we went back to spirit and took on another human form and came straight back to this world.  For all others those who passed over could stay in spirit for any amount of time before they reincarnate back to this world.  Again if I am correct I made a mistake yesterday because in fact we have never been back to our true homes ever since the divine plan started



 

Bill

 Bill, it is hard to find words to explain something that there are not any words to explain. But words are all that we have, so we do our best   . Now correct "me" if I am wrong, the way that I see it is that you and I and some others volunteered to deliver a message to today's world and when it is time we will deliver that message. And when it is time, that message will be understood. Now, I see three worlds, the physical world that we are in now, the spirit world where we go for a time between reincarnations, and the world where the Children or family of God live. The world where the family of God lives is what I am calling "Home". Humankind is for the most part trapped in the cycle of life and death and they travel from the physical world to the spirit world and then back to the physical world to start over again. Over and over again. They never go "home" because they are trapped in this cycle of life and death and they go from physical to spirit, spirit to physical, over and over again. Eventually Bill, "when it is time", the message that you deliver will help others to find their way "home" and they will leave the cycle of live and death to live forever where God and the family of God lives. And yes, in the spirit world there is no time, this is because in that world folks are sleeping and dreaming and when they wake up they are back in the physical world. john

Arbel wrote:Very well put John and I would say you are perfectly correct all who accept will return to the level they belong to or they will go to the new earth if that is their wish.  There will be a need for healers and teachers to enter onto the new world in order to guide others in their evolvement and for want of better words there will be a new Garden of Eden for those who move to the new world as no evil will exist.  It has been a long time in coming and in fact in my opinion all this should have come to pass much earlier but like the saying goes better late than never

 

 

Bill

 

 

I agree with you Bill   ! You know what I hate about being a messenger? Because I volunteered to be a messenger I am on God's time and no one is going to understand my message until God says it is time. And in the mean time most folks just think that I am weird.  And the hard part is finding something to do until it is time. It is like Moses, he lived with the Egypt folks and studied all of their stuff for forty years. Then he lived with the Bedouin's, just hung out and had a life for forty years. And then he was "drafted" by God to lead the people of Israel, who for the most part were a "handful" to say the least, around the desert for forty years. Forty years of training, forty years of happy interlude, and then forty years of service. Well, I just spent fifty years in training and now I am hoping for fifty years of happy interlude   ! Love you, john

Nice conversation guys.Very interesting

Aussiepom)))))))))))))))

I WAS talking about the earth plane as well.
how it is not affected by out nightly ventures.
so in actually it is not sleep we require.. it is  more to protection of our human carcass when were not in it.
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On the TIME LOOP/LIfe Death aspects of the ascended energy beings etc parts of this thread

My understanding is that when the shift happens THIS Place  will be the  Heaven for them. The time looping  will no longer exist as they will  no longer taste death.This will become their Paradise.

the time looping (picture it looping over and over finally so tightly from so many zillions of years  that it is almost a slicky slide now) is what has created the  astral travel tunnel is why we can part the curtains and peek into past lives and past adventures...

those who were/are the CHOSEN ones will go HOME finally. a different place then  this one. Some to the God plane, some to the plane above it.
the twains, the dhumans, the saints, the ,martyrs, the masters
and on arrival we will disconnect that end of the tunnel so to speak.

You have lost me ......

sorry Mia.. I had not been up long when responded is my excuse lol

I went back and edited for separation of thoughts in the two parts of this thread in my response

Thanks Laura and Bill.
You do realise we have not all come back from 'spirit'
Some of us have volunteered from other planets to help Earths transition.

Thank you Bill.. I can at times get trapped in my own mind. lol

Some of us have volunteered from other planets to help Earths transition.

Mia that is home for you hunny...and for many of us as well

mia wrote:Thanks Laura and Bill.
You do realise we have not all come back from 'spirit'
Some of us have volunteered from other planets to help Earths transition.

 Welcome Mia   !  Humankind needs all of the help it can get. Love, john